(08-28-2013, 11:39 PM)Boblobster Wrote: S-so?

(08-29-2013, 12:29 PM)Freddy705 Wrote: In my opinion, people that judge others by religion is the same as racism.

i whould tempban people that does this. Refeering to "Biblefaggot", is "Blackfaggot" og "Negrofaggot" any better?

(08-29-2013, 07:26 PM)Boblobster Wrote: [spoiler]Prejudice means hate without reason or experience. If you hate religion you are hating a certain set of ideas, which can conflict with your own, so it's more on the level of arguing with someone for their political beliefs, not hating them without reason like when being racist.

Sure you could be there all 'this Bob person is a twat', but here's where I'm coming from: When you are born French, black, a certain sexuality or a certain gender there is nothing you can do to change that and it doesn't show anything about you other than you are French, black, a certain sexuality or a certain gender. If you hate any of those people just for that reason then you are being prejudice.

If however, they say they belong to a certain religion then you can safely assume they accept the 'terms and conditions' following their religion and holy book, and some of those things you may not agree with (for example the whole muslims oppressing women or Christians trying to stop gay marriage). Yeah everyone follows their religion in their own way but identifying as a certain religion shows a lot more about you than anything I mentioned, and you are a lot more likely to have personal views and experience following that religion. If you do not agree with something a religion says you are not being prejudiced against it, you're being critical of it.

I dislike conservatives because as a general rule they're all for making the poor poorer and the rich richer, me being working class and wanting to get to uni with all the raising fees everywhere I think I'm entitled to the view that they're arseholes without it being prejudiced. This is essentially the same as me disliking Christians for as a general rule they oppress homosexuals and are trying to stop them having rights in things that do not personally effect them in any way - this is not a prejudiced viewpoint as there is reason to believe it is true, and there's lots of experience to back it up.

Hating a religion is about as prejudice as hating a political party. Being racist is prejudice almost all the time, because there's no set of rules or requirements they have to follow to be that race other than be born there. With religion you do have to follow these rules if you aren't lying when you identify yourself as a member, else you're going against the religion, so it's not prejudice to disagree with the rules and therefore the person.

TL;DR, religion is a choice, race isn't. Religion should not have any special recognition in the rules as much as insulting someone's political party. If it stays in making fun of gender and sexuality should go in too.

Didn't proof read either, should be fun when other people point out any mistakes >_>. [/spoiler]